Showing posts with label Libya. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Libya. Show all posts

Sunday, May 5, 2013

Benghazi witness gets last message from Ambassador Stevens

The truth is coming out.  Benghazi hearings will be held this week and the cover-up by Obama and Hillary Clinton will be proven.


Sunday, April 7, 2013

Open Letter to the U.S. House of Representatives on Benghazi - We owe the truth to the American people and the families of the fallen.

Agreed on all points with my shipmates - Bravo Zulu to them on pursuing this issue as it matters.

We owe the truth to the American people and the families of the fallen.

Honor, courage and commitment was these warriors credo.  President Obama and Hillary Clinton have participated in a cover-up larger than Watergate.  4 good men died and no one has been held responsible for the failure to protect our people.

From Special Operations Speaks -

http://specialoperationsspeaks.com/articles/open-letter-to-the-us-house-of-representatives

Open Letter to the U.S. House of Representatives

April 8, 2013

To: Members of The U.S. House of Representatives

Subject: The Benghazi attacks on 9/11/ 2012

The undersigned are a representative group of some 700 retired Military Special Operations professionals who spent the majority of their careers preparing for and executing myriad operations to rescue or recover detained or threatened fellow Americans. In fact, many of us participated in both the Vietnam era POW rescue effort, The Son Tay Raid, as well as Operation Eagle Claw, the failed rescue attempt in April of 1980 in Iran, so we have been at this for many years and have a deep passion for seeking the truth about what happened during the national tragedy in Benghazi.

The purpose of this letter is to encourage all members of the US House of Representatives to support H.Res. 36, which will create a House Select Committee on the Terrorist Attack in Benghazi. It is essential that a full accounting of the events of September 11, 2012, be provided and that the American public be fully informed regarding this egregious terrorist attack on US diplomatic personnel and facilities. We owe that truth to the American people and the families of the fallen.

It appears that many of the facts and details surrounding the terrorist attack which resulted in four American deaths and an undetermined number of American casualties have not yet been ascertained by previous hearings and inquiries. Additional information is now slowly surfacing in the media, which makes a comprehensive bipartisan inquiry an imperative. Many questions have not been answered thus far. The House Select Committee should address, at a minimum, the following questions:

1. Why was there no military response to the events in Benghazi?

a. Were military assets in the region available? If not, why not?

b. If so, were they alerted?

c. Were assets deployed to any location in preparation for a rescue or recovery attempt?

d. Was military assistance requested by the Department of State? If so, what type?

e. Were any US Army/Naval/USMC assets available to support the US diplomats in Benghazi during the attack?

f. What, if any, recommendations for military action were made by DOD and the US Africa Command?

2. What, if any, non-military assistance was provided during the attack?

3. How many US personnel were injured in Benghazi?

4. Why have the survivors of the attack not been questioned?

5. Where are the survivors?

6. Who was in the White House Situation Room (WHSR) during the entire 8-hour period of the attacks, and was a senior US military officer present?

7. Where were Leon Panetta and General Martin Dempsey during the crisis, and what inputs and recommendations did they make?

8. Where were Tom Donilon, the National Security Advisor, Denis McDonough, his deputy, Valerie Jarrett and John Brennan during the attacks, and what (if any) recommendations or decisions did any of them make?

9. Why were F-16 fighter aircraft based in Aviano, Italy (less than two hours away) never considered a viable option for disruption (if not dispersal) of the attackers until “boots on the ground” (troop support--General Dempsey’s words) arrived?

10. Were any strike aircraft (such as an AC-130 gunship) in the area or possibly overhead that would cause former SEAL Tyrone Woods to laser-designate his attacker’s position and call for gunship fire support, thereby revealing his own location that led to his death?

11. Who gave the order to “STAND DOWN” that was heard repeatedly during the attacks?

12. What threat warnings existed before the attack, and what were the DOD and DOS responses to those warnings? What data (which will reveal exact timelines and command decisions) is contained within the various SITREPS, records, logs, videos and recordings maintained by the myriad of DOD, Intelligence Community and State Department Command Centers that were monitoring the events in Benghazi as they unfolded?

13. Why did the Commander-in Chief and Secretary of State never once check in during the night to find out the status of the crisis situation in Benghazi?

14. What was the nature of Ambassador Stevens’ business in Benghazi at the time of the attack?

15. What guidance has been provided to survivors and family members since the time of the attack, and who issued that guidance?

16. Why are so many agencies now requiring their personnel that were involved in or have access to information regarding the events that took place in Benghazi sign Non-Disclosure Agreements?

This was the most severe attack on American diplomatic facilities and personnel since the attacks on the US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998. Thus far, it appears that there has been no serious effort to determine critical details of this attack. This is inexcusable and demands immediate attention by the Congress. Congress must show some leadership and provide answers to the public as to what actually occurred in Benghazi. Americans have a right to demand a full accounting on this issue.

A longstanding American ethos was breached during the terrorist attack in Benghazi. America failed to provide adequate security to personnel deployed into harm’s way and then failed to respond when they were viciously attacked. Clearly, this is unacceptable and requires accountability. America has always held to the notion that no American will be left behind and that every effort will be made to respond when US personnel are threatened. Given our backgrounds, we are concerned that this sends a very negative message to future military and diplomatic personnel who may be deployed into dangerous environments. That message is that they will be left to their own devices when attacked. That is an unacceptable message.

The House Select Committee should focus on getting a detailed account of the events in Benghazi as soon as possible. H. Res. 36 will provide a structure for the conduct of a thorough inquiry of Benghazi and should be convened immediately.

We ask that you fulfill your responsibilities to the American people and take appropriate action regarding Benghazi. With over sixty members of the US House of Representatives calling for this Select Committee already, it seems that the time is right to take appropriate action on Benghazi.

Sign the Petition -
http://specialoperationsspeaks.com/petition/benghazigate-petition

Signed:

Lt Gen Leroy J. Manor, USAF (Ret)
Commanding General, Son Tay POW Raid

LTG William G. (Jerry) Boykin, USA (Ret)
Special Forces/Ranger

Larry W. Bailey, CAPT, USN (Ret.)
SOS Founder & SEAL Coordinator

Richard F. (Dick) Brauer, Col, USAF (Ret)
SOS Founder & Air Commando Coordinator

Michael Thornton, LT, USN SEAL (Ret.)
Medal of Honor

Thomas R. Norris, LT, USNR SEAL (Ret.)
Medal of Honor

LTG Bruce Fister, USAF (Ret) AFSOC Commanding General

LTG Michael F. Spigelmire, USA (Ret) Sp Forces, former CG USASOC

LTG Dell Dailey, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTG David P. Fridovich, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MG Robert Patterson, USAF (Ret) Air Commando, former CG, 23AF

MG James Guest, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MG Jim Hobson, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

MG John K. "Jack" Singlaub, USA (Ret), OSS and MACV-SOG

MG David A. Morris, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MG John M. McBroom, USAF (Ret) Fighter Pilot

MG Sid Shachnow, USA (Ret), Special Forces

MG Richard "Dick" Scholtes, USA (Ret) CG, JSOC

MG Joe Boyersmith, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MG David Baratto, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MG Ed Scholes, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MG Paul E. Vallely , USA (Ret) Ranger/PSYOP/Commander SOF

BG Joe Stringham, USA (Ret) SF/Ranger

RADM George Worthington, USN SEAL (Ret.)

BG Samuel Thompson III, USA (Ret) Special Forces

BG George Gaspard Jr. USA (Ret) Special Forces

BG Stuart Pike, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Col Tom Bradley, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Loren A. Rodway, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Jim Kyle, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col George Ferkes USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col John Harbison, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Ken Poole, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Mike Flynt, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Don Panzenhagen, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

COL George R. Randy" Givens, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Jack Peevy, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Rodger Slaughter, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Darrell W. Katz, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Thomas Hoyt Davis III, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Robert W. Lockridge, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Wylie W. Johnson, USAR, (Ret) Special Forces

COL John P. McMullen, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Kevin B. Rue, USAR (Ret) Ranger

COL Lawrence Draper, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Clyde Wadsworth, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Col Steve (Mac) McIsaac, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

COL John P. Dolan, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Allen F. Fleming Jr., USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

COL John Corley, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Bill Duesberry, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Edward R. Ager Jr., USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Sully DeFontaine, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Jack Farr, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Aviation/PSYOP/CA

COL Allen L. Bucknell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CAPT Ted Hammond, USNR/SEAL (Ret.)

CAPT Frank Butler, USN SEAL (Ret.)CAPT Ron Yeaw, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

Col John Gargus, USAF (Ret) Air Commando/Son Tay Raider

COL Bob Morris, USA (Ret) Ranger

COL Stan Shaneyfelt, USA (Ret) Ranger

Col Roland Guidry, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Ron Jones, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

COL Nick Hubbell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Col Forrest M. Kimsey, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col John Harbison, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col John Arnold, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Phillip E. Glenn, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col J. Briggs Diuguid, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col John "Pappy" Gallagher, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

COL Lance E. Booth, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Hawk Holloway, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Donald W. Drasheff, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Gordon Arabian, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Max F. Newman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Jack Farr, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Rodger Slaughter, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Tom Rendall, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

COL David E. Stark, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL James P. Nelson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Michael Kershner, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Mark D. Boyatt, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Richard N. Helfer, USA (Ret) Special Forces

COL Lincoln (Linc) German, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

COL Carlos A. Burgos, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Col Robert "Bob" Brenci, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Herman (Bubber) Youngblood, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Col Lee Hess, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

COL James T. Laroe, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Col Ray Turczynski, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

COL Richard T. Dillon, USA (Ret), Aviation

COL Duncan M. "Pete" Thompson Sr, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Col Dave Blizzard, USMC (Ret) Force Recon

CAPT Joseph R. John, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CAPT Norman Olson, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CAPT Richard W. Hoff, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LTC Jim Horris, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Richard Pack, USA (Ret) Ranger

LTC Raymond Morris, USA Special Forces (Ret.)

LTC Ben Prater, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC S. "West" Summers Jr., USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Robert Kolpien, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Michael O'Byrne, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Harvey M. Johnson III, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Dreher Kinney III, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC C.R. "Rex" Crigger, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

LTC Michael Lyons, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Kevin Dragnett, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Bill Behrens, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Robert Closson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Charles Zimmerman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Robert L. Leites, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Charles Revie, USA (Ret) Ranger

LTC Donald L. Briere, USA (Ret) Special Forces/SFOD-D

LTC Brett A. Francis, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Jeffrey S. Prough, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC John Armstrong, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Civil Affairs

LTC Joseph Jacobowski, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

LTC Pete Cafaro, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Edward Wolcoff, USA (Ret), Special Forces

LTC Geoff Barker, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

LTC Stephen Muskett, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC David S. Keith, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Kevin Reece, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Mark Grdovic, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Richard A. Evans, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Phillip B. Wyllie, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Daniel M. Ward, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Michael A. Cruz, US ARMY Special Forces

Lt Col JVO Weaver, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

LTC Ben Morris, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Allen D. Butler, USA (Ret), Aviation

Lt Col Percy Dunagin, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Lt Col John Anderson, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

LTC Arnold W. Peterman Jr, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Peter Marceau, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Michael D. "Mick" Colgan, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Mark A. Beattie, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Lt Col Emil "Max" Friedauer, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

CDR Paul Evancoe, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LTC Ken Benway, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Ray T. Oden, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Michael Babb, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Gary Danley, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Alex R. Lizardo, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Steven K. (Kelly) Snapp, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC A. Dwayne Aaron, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Larry Little, USA (Ret) Aviation

LTC Fred Lindsey, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

LTC John F. Downey, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC Cecil Bailey, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LTC John L. "Dusty" Deryck, USA (Ret) Aviation

Lt Col Jim Lawrence, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

LtCol William Cowan, USMC Recon (Ret.)

LTC Jimmie D. Sullivan, USAR (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Clifford Andersen, USAR (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Daniel L. "Danny" Harrington, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Maj Steve James, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

Maj Bob Krueger, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

MAJ Gene R. Bacon, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Bill Patton, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Patrick Desmond,USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Julian P. Turner, USA (Ret) Ranger

MAJ George Gaspard III, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ R. V. Giroux, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Anthony M. Jones,USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Robert A. Mathews, USMC (Ret) Force Recon

Maj Doug Ulery, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

MAJ James T. Soper, USA (Ret), Ranger

MAJ Joel Rieman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CDR Kevin C. Walters, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

MAJ Roy Sayer, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Timothy Howle, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Nelson Bernard "Beny" Neff II, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Mark A. Smith, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MAJ Kevin N. Knapp, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Kent M. Elliot, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Clifford Barber, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Jim Grimshaw, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MAJ Chris Brewer, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Charles J. Watts, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Maj William "Bill" Morrell, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

MAJ Dave Morehouse, USA (Ret) Ranger

MAJ Charles Gallagher, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Thomas Humphus, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Jerry L. Cooper, USA, (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MAJ Mike Linnane, USA Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Thomas A. Person, USA (Ret) Ranger

MAJ Fred Karnes, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Tom Greer, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MAJ Pat W. Mitchel, USA (Ret) Special Forces

LCDR Samuel Miess, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR Bill Langley, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR William T. "Bill" Davis, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR Thomas R. Truxell, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR Bill Bentley, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR Joe Hunt, USN/SEAL/USCG (Ret.)

LT James Tyrie, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

LT Keen Bradley, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

Capt James Brenci, USAFR, Air Commando

CPT Robert J. Fair, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Jeffrey C. Long, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Gary Honold, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Don Bendell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Robert L. Woodfork,USA (Ret) Special Forces

Capt Paul D. Copher Jr., USAF (Ret) Air Commando

CPT "Cork" Motsett, USA (Hon Med Discharge), USA, Special Forces

CPT Brett Patron, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT W. F. "Walt" Emerson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Dale R. Simmons, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Charles Sands, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Stuart K. Weber, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Bryan L. Brooks, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Capt Rogers Stevens, USAF, (Ret) Air Commando

CPT Lewis Arnold, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Fred Iacobelli, USA (Veteran) Vietnam

CPT Dennis Murphy, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Michael Hawkeye, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Robert J. Van Hoof, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Garth S. Estadt, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT John Hammack, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Richard Pait, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Robert D. Hickson Jr., USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Gregory Miller, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Russell E. Cummings, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT J. "Jay" Paton Dellow, USAR (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Jon B. Wang, USA (Veteran), Special Forces

CPT Doug Mason, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

CPT Tommy Shook, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

CPT Richard L. Harvey, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Patrick M. Kinsey, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Robert L. Noe, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

1LT Michael Ash, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

1 Lt Mark Austin Byrd, USMC (Ret) Aviation/MACV-SOG

CMSgt Nicholas "Nick" Kiraly, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

SMSgt Johnny Pantages, USAF (Ret) Air Commando/Special Tactics

SMSgt Donald R. Williams, USAF (Ret) MACV-SOG

CSM GARY l. Baura, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Anthony J Doldo, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Dennis "Denny" Baum, USA, Recondo

SFC S. West Summers III, USA, KIA 2/8/09, Special Forces

SSG Craig J. Rutherford, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Michael Roth, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Ken Bradshaw, USAR (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Jon S. White, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Cuitahuac Weber, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Kenneth Potter, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Robert L. Selmer II, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Glenn O. Ulman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Chris Crain, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG John D. Morris, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Jorge Reyes, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Miles Lee White, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

SGT Stephen M. Goth, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

SGT Alan N. Kelley, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Lanny Lucero, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Stephen M. Thayer, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SOC Douglas Norway, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

CW4 Jeffrey Mallette, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Robert K. "Bobby" Parker, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Lou Faulkner, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Carlos Westling, USA (Ret) Special Forces/SFOD-D

CW4 Jim (Hoverin Hud) Hudson, USA (Ret) Aviation/160SOAR

1SG James E. McDougal, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Rex Crawford, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW4 John "Chet" Hayward, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

1SG Clete Sinyard, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG Walter R. Anderson, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

MSG Ronnie L. Raikes, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Michael Birky, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Michael D. De Rosa, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Kevin R. C. O'Brien, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Jay M. Massey, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Theodore D. Aslund USA (Veteran) Special Forces

SFC Kerry Alzner, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Dennis M. Foy, USA (Ret) Special Forces

BM2 Wallace D. Whitley, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

SSgt Eric Roberts, USAF, (Ret) Aviation

MSG Larry M. Busbee, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG David J. Lamorte, USA (Ret) Special Forces/CIA

SGT Frank Maiorano, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Robert Allard, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Thomas B. Jackson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Bob Seifert, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Timothy A. Dedie, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Leo Joseph Van Deusen I, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Leo Van Deusen II, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

SGM Donald Weichold, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Adolph G. Reyes, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Robert S. Domina, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG James Vaughn, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Mike Maricle, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Clarence Page, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SOCS David R. Havens II, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

SGT Keith Hendricks, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 William Arrot Jr. USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Bradley Adair, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Kirk A. Pope Jr. USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Scott K. Fagan, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1SG Ronald C. Wilson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Robert W. Ramsey, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

SFC David Diaz, USA (Ret) Special Forces

TSgt David P. Jones, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

SFC Harry B. Whidden, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Dave Noyes, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW2 Kevin A. Marnell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG Jim Stoddard, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG John McCort, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Terry J. Dagnon, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1SG Dean M. McBride, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Robert D. Leonard, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1SG Tracy R. Hickman, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MSG Thomas Olden, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John Bash, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Steven M. Williams, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SFC Stephen Aden (Veteran) Special Forces

SFC Andrew G. Wilbur, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Nick Freitas, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM William F. Cronin III, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Melvin L. Wick, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Gary L. Melchi, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SP5 Roger F. Lockshier, USA (Veteran) Aviation

MSG Gerald Mierle, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Danny Fowler, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Edwin L. Simons Jr., USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Frank G. Duran, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SGM Harold (Jake) Jacobson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Walter J. Hooper, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SFC Phillip Carter, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Robert E. Hand, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Malcolm A. Howard, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC H. Deatherage, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Ernest Hartwig, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Mark T. Smith, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

1SG James B. Rawlinson, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MSG Clyde N. McMillan, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Michael w. Clark, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

SFC John Lemke, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Harold Johnson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW4 Shaun P. Driscoll, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SGT Alex Saunders, USA (Veteran), Special Forces/Recon

CW2 Ronald B. Piper, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Scott Herbert, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Brian Scott La Morte, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Robert S. Cox, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Selmer R. "Dick" Hyde, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MSG Allen W. Elks Jr, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG R. Jones, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SSG Nelson M. Parrish, USA (Ret) Special Forces

AOCS Paul Johnston, USNR (Ret.) EOD/ NAVSPECWAR

MSG W. N. "Nick" Ward, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Casey Standidge, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Benjamin Stochmal, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Rick Hodges, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Roderick Knight, USA (Ret) Special Forces

PRC Michael Morgan, USN/SVD (Ret.)

SSG David J. Hall, USA (Veteran) Ranger

MSgt Justin D. Hughes, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

SGM Ronald C. Knight, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Mark Popelka, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Scott Marbut, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Shawn Datres, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG Bernard Goggins, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

SGT Barry R. Crossfield, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Robert King, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Glenn Nickel, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC James D. Maxwell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Clarence Brangard, USA (Ret) Ranger

SGM Kevin Riley, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Jeffrey T. Oates, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MSG Peter N. Spagnalo, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Tony Cleveland, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG Arnold Ring, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Russ Baker, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John D. Johnson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG Michael E. Benish, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Gary M. Moston, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Kurt Weber, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Harry L. Coker, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Kenneth Wortman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Barry Hotle, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SP5 M.E. Jackson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Angel "Candy" Candelaria, USA (Ret) Spec Forces/Ranger/ SFOD-D

MSG Brian E. Gould, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Bruce V. Hanley, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John P. Mouyos, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Al Hunt Jr., USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Doug Fuhrmann, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Dan Farmer, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1SG Gary Myers, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Ted Aslund, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

1SG Wedell J. (Joe) Waters, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Dennis Foy, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CMSgt Gene Eller, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

CORP Harry Clafin, USMC (Veteran) Force Recon

CW4 Richard F. Balwanz, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SP4 Steve Costa, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Howard Massingill, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Lawrence A. Jordan, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SFC Phil Melcher, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Tim Guth, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Rocklyn (Rock) Shiffer, USA (Ret) Ranger

CW3 Todd D. Rinehart, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Phillip Stone, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Charles S. (Chuck) Simpson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1SG Steven Mattoon, USA (Ret) Ranger

MSG Robert (Bob) James, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Timothy Mabe, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SP5 Harvey Cox, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Tim Ward, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Brian Rodriguez, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John Stepan, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Joseph S. Glazewski, Jr. USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG William E. Strobel, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Billy VanValkenburgh, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Arthur C. Tucker, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Juan A. Calderon, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSgt James H. Shorten Jr., USAF (Ret) Air Commando

SFC Dennis Holloway, Medic USN/USA Spec Forces/USAF Pararescue

SGT Grant M. "Marc" King, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Merritt H. Powell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Richard H. Garvey, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Larry R. Darras, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Herman "Chris" Reeves, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Anthony S. Altano, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MSG Laverne "Bing" Allar, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Jeffrey a. Yaro, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Tom Holschuh, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC David S. Surman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Joseph Tetreault, USA (Ret) Special Forces/SFOD-D

SFC Gerald Holt, USA (Ret) Ranger

SFC Jerald L. Petersen, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Rodolfo "Rudy" D. Rodrigues, USA (Ret) Special Forces/SFOD-D

MSG William "Todd" Black, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Larry L. Trimble, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SGM Kenneth C. Baschke, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Lawrence Cardassi, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Hank Luthy, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Willy Welsch, USA (Ret) Special Forces/SFOD-D

SFC Phillip Schulz, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John L. Leffler, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Pete B. Estrada, USA (Ret) Special Forces

A1C David "Mac" McLay, USAF (Veteran) Air Commando

CSM Selmer R. "Dick" Hyde, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SSG Nick Walton, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

MSG Daniel E. Deck, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG James Blakelee, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG John M. Trantanella, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Brian Shives, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Sgt Martin T. Bennet, USAF (Ret) MACV-SOG

CW4 Greg Coker, USA (Ret) Aviation/160thSOAR

SFC Terry Grant Winkley, USA, (Ret) Special Forces

MSG George Torrealba, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Johnnie King, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Charles Garland, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC James E. King, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Jay McGinness, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1 SG Jim "Ringo" Ringland, USA, (Ret) Special Forces

MSG John D. Tippy, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 James H. Thackaberry, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM John Shimkoski, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT James D. Thacker, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Thomas A. Reesman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Gail R. Ernst, USA (Ret) Ranger

CSM David L. Clark, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Edward Laminack, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John A. Hughes, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Kenneth Chapman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW4 Akira Wayne Kim, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG David L. Rotner, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Jerry "Fonz" Fontana, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM William F. Hux, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Billy Cason, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Anthony Ruddeen, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Joe Lupyak, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Samuel Wright, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG William A. Easterling, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG David C. Goodwin, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Todd B. Girdner, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Jeff Hinton, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Patrick R. Ballogg, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW4 John "Chet" Hayward, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SGT Clifford N. Alford, USA (Ret) Special Forces/CIA

SGT Richard E. Gross, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM George Davenport, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Lee "Tony" Douglas, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Robert Rogers, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW2 Thomas Leslie Tannahill, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Daniel Zahody, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Gerald Hamm Jr, USA, (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SFC Lloyd Carpenter, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW2 Michael Flick, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Donald M. Feeney Jr, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Henry S. Moran, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW2 David S. Chacon, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SFC Chris Mottler, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Phillip Crowley, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Joseph Lloyd, USA, (ret) Special Forces

MSG Timothy F. Wynne, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC David A. Anderson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Jesse Boyd, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SFC Stephan Harrell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Lanny Lucero, USA Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MSG Russell Justice, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Lou Campbell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW4 Eric Crum, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG Blake Mills, USA (Veteran) Special Forces

SGT Mark Miller, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Robert F. Finke, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John Jones, USA (Ret) (Special Forces

MSG Leamon L. Ratte, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG James "Mel" Banks, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Leandro Sanfeliz Jr. USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Joseph H Socie, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Charles E. Smith, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SGM Alan F. Farrell, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC James Plannette, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Randall Long, USA (Ret) Ranger JTAC

MSG Charles S. Spence, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Carl A. Fuller, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Patrick T. Quinn, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

SFC David Kauffman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Thomas Collins, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Earnie Holifield, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Donald R. Doering, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Rick Lavoie, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Cecil A. Sager Jr, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

MSG Randy Earp, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Perry Turpin, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG John M. Ailello, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John Bartsow, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG David Mullins, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW5 Lawrence Plesser, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Robert T. Hill, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Joe Back, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Joe Burt, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Serafin Antonio Panigua, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Jack Pope, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM David L. Tope Jr, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Henry F. Wilson III, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Kenneth J. Garcy, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSgt Patrick Walker, USAF (Ret) Air Commando/SOWT

MSG Eddie Licon, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Thomas F. Schultz, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC John Thomas Leggat, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Ernest Hartwig, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Dennis Cherup, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Manuel Beck, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Jeff Ruble, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Scott Randol, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW5 Walt Edwards, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CWO (R) Miguel (Ponch) Ruiz-Pattzi, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Danny Cartwright, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG James Weatherford, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Don W. Benesh, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

CSM Bobby Pruett, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC George Armstrong Menor, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Curtis Earle Edwards, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSG Michael Duffy Jr., USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Lloyd O'Daniel, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

CSM Roger George, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CSM Gerald E. Klein, USA (Ret) Ranger

SFC James Hull, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Durwin Dengerud, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Ronnie Medini,USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Cecil W. "Bud" Morgan, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

CW2 Albert Matos, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Bruce Kuhlman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Michael K. Aleen, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SSGT Danny J. Perry, USA (Vet) Special Forces

MSG James D. McHenry, USAR (Ret) Special Forces

SGT James "Ernie" Acre, USA (Ret) Special Forces/MACV-SOG

SFC Charles Roberts, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Tim Louys, USA (Ret) Special Forces

QMCS Richard R Powers Jr., USN SEAL (Ret.)

MSG Timothy M. Ferris, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM Jon F. Ridolfo, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGM James Kilcoyne, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CW3 Bobby D. Shireman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1SG Joseph M. Crane, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SGT Ward "Buddy" Gilbert, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Terry Huffman, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Jerry Kleive, USN SEAL

LCDR Cade Courtley, USN SEAL

LT H.S. (Bud) Thrift, USN SEAL (Ret.)

BMC Richard L. Arnold, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CDR Rick Bernard, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR Steve Elson, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LT William J. Blackmon, USNR SEAL

CAPT Ronald K. Bell, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LT Philip A. Black, USN SEAL

Richard Cyrus, USN SEAL

LTJG James M. Hawes, USN SEAL

MCPO Jerome D. Cozart, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Captain Steve Ahlberg, US Navy (Ret.) SEAL

CPO Carl T. Zellers, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR David L. Tash, US Navy (Ret.) SEAL

Jim Seidel, USN SEAL

HMC Richard Bryan Willis, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CDR R.J. Thomas, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LT Roland Samuelson, USNR SEAL

QMCM Tom Shoulders, USN SEAL (Ret.)

SCPO Dan Yowell, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CAPT Ron Seiple, USNR SEAL (Ret.)

SN Wayne Gough, USN SEAL

Paul A Tamosunas, USN SEAL

MSG Keith Laub, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPT Robert S. Crenshaw, USA, RANGER

BMCS Frank Odermann, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CAPT Steve Ahlberg, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Rick Worthen, USN PBR

Hunter Grimes II USN SEAL

Maj William "Bill" Diggins, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

LT John R. Dew, USNR SEAL

CWO4 Gary Jackson USN SEAL (Ret.)

CDR Alan G Morris, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CDR Mark Divine, USN SEAL (Ret.)

MAJ Logan Fitch, USA Ret) Special Forces

Glenn Heidenreich, USN SEAL

Col. Michael Haas, USAF/USA, (Ret) Sp Forces/Ranger/Pararescue

MCPO Mark Kauber, USN SEAL (Ret.)

COL John D. Blair IV, USA SF (Ret.)

COL J. H. ("Scotty") Crerar, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CAPT Martin McNair, USNR SEAL (Ret.)

MCPO Tom Keith, USN SEAL (Ret.)

MAJ Charles Odorizzi, USA SF (Ret.)

LT John Rottger, USNR SEAL (Ret.)

LT Christopher O. Bent, USN SEAL

LT Martin Every, USN SEAL

COL Marshall Helena, USA (Ret) Special Forces/Ranger

COL Wayne Long, USA (Ret) Special Forces

Lt. Col. Tim Penley, USAF (Ret)

Lt. Col. Joseph W. Cook, III, USAF (Ret)

CAPT Edward Lyon, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CDR Tom Deitz, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CAPT Roger Crossland, USN SEAL (Ret.)

MAJ Andy Messing, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MSG Randy Lykens, USA (Ret) Special Forces

1SG Gordon V. Stinson, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPO Brandon Webb, USN SEAL

LT Francis B. Cleary, USNR SEAL

LCDR Joe Fuller, USN SEAL

MSgt. Bob La Rosa, USAF (Ret) Air Commando

HTCS Steven Granger, USN SEAL (Ret.)

BMC Henry R. Kawecki , USN SEAL (Ret.)

Lt Col Dennis B. Haney, USAF (Ret) Wild Weasel

CDR Marshall D. Daugherty, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CWO4 Mike USN SEAL (Ret.)

QMCM Tom Shoulders, USN SEAL (Ret.)

SOCM Mike Bloom SEAL (Ret.)

Larry Reams, USA (Ret) Ranger

SCPO Robert J. Guzzo, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LCDR Thomas Kleehammer, USN SEAL (Ret.)

SOCS John Westfall, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CPO John Westfall, USN SEAL (Ret.)

SSG Chester Howard, USA (Ret) Special Forces

BMC Ted L. Traver, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Dennis H. Johnson, USN (Ret.) Command Master Chief Seal Team 6

LT Alan R. Horner, USN SEAL

CDR Bruce Willhite USN/SEAL (Ret.)

PO1 Don Tinnin (Medical Ret), SEAL

MSG John Nettles, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Allen Berberick, USA (Ret) Special Forces

SFC Kelly A. Stewart, USA (Ret) Special Forces

CPO John J. Ballis, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

CPO Tom McCutchan, USN SEAL (Ret.)

LTC Raymond "Ray" Morris, USA (Ret) Special Forces

MMCM Kirk Scarboro, USN/SEAL (Ret.)

Philip Williams, USN Beach Jumper

Mike Macready, USN SEAL

HMC Manny Perez, USN SEAL (Ret.)

CDR Mike Wilkinson, USN SEAL (Ret.)

MCPO Thomas D. Vawter , USN SEAL (Ret.)

MCPO James Madison, USN SEAL (Ret.)

MCPO Bill Bruhmuller, SEAL USN (Ret.)

GM2 Benjamin Smith USN SEAL

BM1 Thomas E. Black, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Captain David Del Giudice, USN SEAL (Ret)

Chris Wilhelm, USN SEAL

MCPO Arturo Farias, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Joe Murray, USN SEAL

Chris Berman, USN SEAL

MCPO William A. Garnett, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Carlton. J. Poulnot, USN SEAL

Eric L. Hansen, USA (Ret.) Special Forces 18D

LCDR Robert S. Hayman, USN SEAL (Ret.)

William R. Rosencrans, USN SEAL

CPO Terrence Flynn, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Roger Guerra, USN SEAL

James Seidel, USN SEAL

CPO Robert Willingham, USN SEAL (Ret.)

Rick March, USN SEAL

Forrest Hedden, USNR SEAL

Michael J. Baumgart, USN SEAL

Gordon Boyce, USN SEAL

Thursday, January 24, 2013

Benghazi - Lies, Lies and more Damned Lies

I watched the hearing yesterday where Senators tried to get answers from Hillary Clinton.
 
Thanks to Senator John McCain and Senator Rand Paul.  They did a good job of trying to get to the truth.  The rest of those charged with investigating this tragedy were woefully inadequate.
 
4 good men died - Hillary Clinton and Obama lied.  That is the truth.
 
 

Friday, November 2, 2012

LV Journal Editorial - Benghazi blunder: Obama unworthy commander-in-chief

The LAS VEGAS REVIEW JOURNAL editorial lays it out bare.  Good Men DIED, and OBAMA LIED.

There can be no more damning failure than to leave good men w/o proper security and failing to respond when they call for help - not once but THREE TIMES.

All Obama's other failures are explainable as he was never the right person to be President, this failure to protect our people is due to cowardice and making decisions based on polling/politics. Let's not forget all in the MEDIA who have tried to assist Obama and his ilk in covering this story up/trying to make it go away.  They are guilty of being accessories after the fact.

Let's remember that Obama went to bed when the attack was going on, got up the next morning, made a speech that was not unlike someone reading a menu and then flew off to LAS VEGAS for a fundraiser - Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot ??????

LIBS can try to spin this away but there is no defense for his actions.  He is responsible and needs to be voted out of office, then investigated and ultimately prosecuted for failure of his responsibilities as CIC and lying to the American people.

He is liable for the deaths of 4 good men, an Ambassador and three support staff including 2 NAVY SEALs.  There is no defense for this failure.

EDITORIAL

Benghazi blunder: Obama unworthy commander-in-chief

Posted: Nov. 1, 2012 | 2:01 a.m.

U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans died in a well-planned military assault on their diplomatic mission in Benghazi seven weeks ago, the anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. So why are details surfacing, piecemeal, only now?

The Obama administration sat by doing nothing for seven hours that night, ignoring calls to dispatch help from our bases in Italy, less than two hours away. It has spent the past seven weeks stretching the story out, engaging in misdirection and deception involving supposed indigenous outrage over an obscure anti-Muslim video, confident that with the aid of a docile press corps this infamous climax to four years of misguided foreign policy can be swept under the rug, at least until after Tuesday's election.

Charles Woods, father of former Navy SEAL and Henderson resident Tyrone Woods, 41, says his son died slumped over his machine gun after he and fellow ex-SEAL Glen Doherty - not the two locals who were the only bodyguards Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration would authorize - held off the enemy for seven hours.

The Obama administration was warned. They received an embassy cable June 25 expressing concern over rising Islamic extremism in Benghazi, noting the black flag of al-Qaida "has been spotted several times flying over government buildings and training facilities." The Obama administration removed a well-armed, 16-member security detail from Libya in August, The Wall Street Journal reported last month, replacing it with a couple of locals. Mr. Stevens sent a cable Aug. 2 requesting 11 additional body guards, noting "Host nation security support is lacking and cannot be depended on," reports Peter Ferrara at Forbes.com. But these requests were denied, officials testified before the House Oversight Committee earlier this month.

Based on documents released by the committee, on the day of the attack the Pentagon dispatched a drone with a video camera so everyone in Washington could see what was happening in real time. The drone documented no crowds protesting any video. But around 4 p.m. Washington received an email from the Benghazi mission saying it was under a military-style attack. The White House, the Pentagon, the State Department and the CIA were able to watch the live video feed. An email sent later that day reported "Ansar al-Sharia claims responsibility for Benghazi attack."

Not only did the White House do nothing, there are now reports that a counterterrorism team ready to launch a rescue mission was ordered to stand down.

The official explanation for the inadequate security? This administration didn't want to "offend the sensibilities" of the new radical Islamic regime which American and British arms had so recently helped install in Libya.

The official explanation for why Obama administration officials watched the attack unfold for seven hours, refusing repeated requests to send the air support and relief forces that sat less than two hours away in Italy? Silence.

An open discussion of these issues, of course, would lead to difficult questions about the wisdom of underwriting and celebrating the so-called Arab Spring revolts in the first place. While the removal of tyrants can be laudable, the results show a disturbing pattern of merely installing new tyrannies - theocracies of medieval mullahs who immediately start savaging the rights of women (including the basic right to education) and who are openly hostile to American interests.

When Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney promptly criticized the security failures in Benghazi, the White House and its lapdog media jumped all over him for another "gaffe," for speaking out too promptly and too strongly. Prompt and strong action from the White House on Sept. 11 might have saved American lives, as well as America's reputation as a nation not to be messed with. Weakness and dithering and flying to Las Vegas the next day for celebrity fund-raising parties are somehow better?

This administration is an embarrassment on foreign policy and incompetent at best on the economy - though a more careful analysis shows what can only be a perverse and willful attempt to destroy our prosperity. Back in January 2008, Barack Obama told the editorial board of the San Francisco Chronicle that under his cap-and-trade plan, "If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It's just that it will bankrupt them." He added, "Under my plan ... electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." It was also in 2008 that Mr. Obama's future Energy Secretary, Steven Chu, famously said it would be necessary to "figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe" - $9 a gallon.

Yet the president now claims he's in favor of oil development and pipelines, taking credit for increased oil production on private lands where he's powerless to block it, after he halted the Keystone XL Pipeline and oversaw a 50 percent reduction in oil leases on public lands.
These behaviors go far beyond "spin." They amount to a pack of lies. To return to office a narcissistic amateur who seeks to ride this nation's economy and international esteem to oblivion, like Slim Pickens riding the nuclear bomb to its target at the end of the movie "Dr. Strangelove," would be disastrous.

Candidate Obama said if he couldn't fix the economy in four years, his would be a one-term presidency.

Mitt Romney is moral, capable and responsible man. Just this once, it's time to hold Barack Obama to his word. Maybe we can all do something about that, come Tuesday

Tuesday, October 23, 2012

White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack

Many knew that this was truth - The White House put out LIES, LIES and more damned LIES. The White House was aware from the very start that the Benghazi attack was the work of Terrorists.

Obama needs to go as he has failed as our President.  The Benghazi Cover-up is more serious than Watergate as 4 good men died and their deaths were preventable.  If we had Adult Leadership in place, they would have made sure our Ambassador in Libya had sufficient security.

Protecting our people and country is the first duty of the President.  Obama has failed.

REUTERS: White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: email


The U.S. Consulate in Benghazi is seen in flames during a protest by an armed group said to have been protesting a film being produced in the United States September 11, 2012. REUTERS/Esam Al-Fetori
The U.S. Consulate in Benghazi is seen in flames during a protest by an armed group said to have been protesting a film being produced in the United States September 11, 2012.
Credit: Reuters/Esam Al-Fetori


WASHINGTON | Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:11pm EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers.

Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

While officials did mention the possible involvement of "extremists," they did not lay blame on any specific militant groups or possible links to al Qaeda or its affiliates until intelligence officials publicly alleged that on September 28.

There were indications that extremists with possible al Qaeda connections were involved, but also evidence that the attacks could have erupted spontaneously, they said, adding that government experts wanted to be cautious about pointing fingers prematurely.

U.S. intelligence officials have emphasized since shortly after the attack that early intelligence reporting about the attack was mixed.

Spokesmen for the White House and State Department had no immediate response to requests for comments on the emails.

MISSIVES FROM LIBYA

The records obtained by Reuters consist of three emails dispatched by the State Department's Operations Center to multiple government offices, including addresses at the White House, Pentagon, intelligence community and FBI, on the afternoon of September 11.

The first email, timed at 4:05 p.m. Washington time - or 10:05 p.m. Benghazi time, 20-30 minutes after the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission allegedly began - carried the subject line "U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack" and the notation "SBU", meaning "Sensitive But Unclassified."

The text said the State Department's regional security office had reported that the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was "under attack. Embassy in Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well."

The message continued: "Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four ... personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support."

A second email, headed "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi" and timed 4:54 p.m. Washington time, said that the Embassy in Tripoli had reported that "the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi had stopped and the compound had been cleared." It said a "response team" was at the site attempting to locate missing personnel.

A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

The message reported: "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

While some information identifying recipients of this message was redacted from copies of the messages obtained by Reuters, a government source said that one of the addresses to which the message was sent was the White House Situation Room, the president's secure command post.
Other addressees included intelligence and military units as well as one used by the FBI command center, the source said.

It was not known what other messages were received by agencies in Washington from Libya that day about who might have been behind the attacks.

Intelligence experts caution that initial reports from the scene of any attack or disaster are often inaccurate.

By the morning of September 12, the day after the Benghazi attack, Reuters reported that there were indications that members of both Ansar al-Sharia, a militia based in the Benghazi area, and al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African affiliate of al Qaeda's faltering central command, may have been involved in organizing the attacks.

One U.S. intelligence official said that during the first classified briefing about Benghazi given to members of Congress, officials "carefully laid out the full range of sparsely available information, relying on the best analysis available at the time."

The official added, however, that the initial analysis of the attack that was presented to legislators was mixed.

"Briefers said extremists were involved in attacks that appeared spontaneous, there may have been a variety of motivating factors, and possible links to groups such as (al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and Ansar al-Sharia) were being looked at closely," the official said.

(Additional reporting by Susan Cornwell; Editing by Mary Milliken and Jim Loney

Sunday, October 21, 2012

Deny, Deny, Deny - The strategy of a Failed Administration

The WSJ lays it out bare - The last 4 years have been a fiasco and the Village Idiot from Chicago needs to go.  Read the whole thing....

Dorothy Rabinowitz: The Unreality of the Past Four Years

The Benghazi fiasco is a brutally illuminating portrait of the Obama White House in crisis mode.

In the 1967 film "A Guide for the Married Man," a husband, played by a peerless Walter Matthau, is given lessons in ways to cheat on his wife safely. The most essential rule: "Deny! Deny! Deny!"—no matter what. In an instructive scene, he's shown a wife undone by shock, and screaming, with reason: She has just walked in on her husband making love to a glamorous stranger.

"What are you doing," she wails, "who is that woman?"

"What woman, where?" the husband serenely counters, as he and the tart in question get out of bed and calmly dress.

So the scene proceeds, with the distraught wife pointing to the woman she clearly sees before her, while her husband, unruffled, continues to look blankly at her, asking, "What woman?" Confused by her spouse's unblinking assurance, she gives up. Two minutes later she's asking him what he'd like for dinner.

For much of the past four years, the Obama administration's propensity for asserting views of reality wildly at odds with those evident to most rational citizens has looked increasingly like a page from that film script.

All administrations conceal, falsify and tell lies—this is understood—but there's no missing the distinctive quality of the prevaricating issuing from the White House in these four years.

It's a quality on vivid display now in the administration's mesmerizing narrative of the assault on the U.S. consulate in Libya. Here's a memorable picture, its detail brutally illuminating, of Obama and company in crisis mode over their conflicting stories about who knew what when. The resulting costs to truth-telling and sanity, or even the appearance thereof, are clear. Nor can we forget the strong element of farce—think U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice on those five Sunday talk shows, reciting with unflagging fervor that official talking point regarding mob violence and a YouTube video. Farce, but no one is laughing.

Team Obama clung to its original story—the attack had come spontaneously at the hands of a mob enraged by that now famous video insulting to the Prophet—long after it was clear that it had been an organized terrorist assault by an al Qaeda affiliate. By Tuesday's debate, we saw a Barack Obama in high dudgeon over suggestions that his office might have deliberately misrepresented the facts. It was, he fumed, an intolerable insult that such charges could have been made about him, the president who had had to receive the bodies of the slain Americans—and who then had to set about getting to the bottom of this murderous terror assault.

Profound and urgent concerns indeed—which, the president neglected to say, had not prevented him from jetting off to his fundraiser in Las Vegas the day after the murders. His administration was not given to politicizing serious matters, the president sternly informed the nation in that second debate:

 "That's not what we do."
 
Good to know. Americans might otherwise have gotten the wrong impression in the past four years, not least from Attorney General Eric Holder, who heads the most openly politicized Justice Department in the nation's history. Among his more recent noteworthy pronouncements, this one relevant to the coming election, Mr. Holder declared that photo ID requirements intended to prevent voting fraud were nothing less than a "poll tax." He was referring to an infamous institution from the days of Jim Crow, whose aim was to suppress black voting. Mr. Holder—so famously fastidious about group sensibilities that he has never been able to bring himself to utter any description identifying a terrorist as Muslim—has apparently had no inhibitions about smearing whole segments of the population as racists.

Mr. Obama's outrage notwithstanding, the administration's prolonged efforts to muddle the picture of the Benghazi attack raised proper suspicions. The Obama team's instant response—that Republicans were attempting to politicize a tragedy—was entirely characteristic. If ever a story screamed its politicized nature, it was the administration's Scheherazade-like tale, now five weeks old and rolling on, about that Sept. 11 assault. A tale that left little doubt of its motivation: fear of the impact, so close to the election, of a successful terrorist attack—the clear indication that al Qaeda was not, as claimed, on the run.

It didn't hurt, of course, that a crude video like the one insulting to Islam is exactly the kind of fodder to which the Obama ministry is partial: Here was an opportunity for right-minded condemnation of bigotry, and if that bigotry was directed at Muslims, all the more opportune. It would be hard to say which member of the Obama administration most invoked the power and influence of that bit of film, officially to be known, now and forever, as the disgusting and reprehensible video.

More and more clearly, the Obama administration has put its faith in the view that the governed, who must be told what is best for their lives, whether they want it or not (see ObamaCare), can also be told that they have not seen what they've seen, have not heard what their ears clearly told them. When the "if you've got a business, you didn't build that" speech proved to be a political land mine, team Obama instantly charged malicious, out-of-context distortion. The president was only talking about—infrastructure! About government-built roads vital for businesses, transportation, etc.

It isn't likely that Americans who had heard the Obama address failed to understand, rightly, its sneering tone directed at those who believed they had a right to think they were responsible for their own success. Not likely that they didn't notice the icy thrust of those words, "I'm always struck by people who feel, 'Well, it must be because I'm just so smart.'" The president had revealed, with unforgettable clarity, his contempt for faith in individual enterprise—a value Americans of every station hold dear. So clear was this contempt, the Republicans knew enough to make it the Day One theme of their convention—the only good day. Democratic Party representatives meanwhile went forward en masse to charge the Republicans with dishonesty.

In the books yet to be written about this presidency, the Obama administration's exceptional readings of reality will deserve an honored place, and a large one. One that should also acknowledge the fact that, in the end, the American people inevitably recognize the difference between lies and truth, illusion and the real thing.

The most telling example of this capacity—the October surprise that shouldn't have been surprising—came with the first presidential debate. The nation saw a superbly cogent Mitt Romney, speaking to them in terms instantly recognizable, words without artifice that addressed their real lives. Viewers saw the life in him, the play of mind, felt the sense of powerful will—that of a leader. It didn't matter all that much that the president looked most unpresidential, a man lost. What mattered was the other man before them, who had brought home to Americans what they had been missing the past four years.

Not surprisingly, when the debate's effects were clear, Obama squads were again deployed to cry fraud. Mr. Romney, we were told, had done nothing but lie. This would now be the official story. It would have no effect. People had seen what they had seen and that would not be changed, not by an improved, fighting Obama as he was last Tuesday, or by a heroically transformed one on Monday night.

Ms. Rabinowitz is a member of the Journal's editorial board

Friday, October 12, 2012

Mother of American killed in Benghazi to President Obama, " you screwed up, you didn't do a good job, I lost my son."

Please read the enclosed transcript from a CNN interview with Fran Smith, Mother of one of the men slain in Benghazi.  She deserves answers about what happened there as do the American people.

Read the whole thing.....  She lays it out bare to those responsible for the deaths of 4 fine US citizens -  The Administration and State Department is more worried about the re-election campaign than telling the Mother of Sean Smith the truth about how they failed to protect the US Ambassador and his staff. 

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Erin, thanks. Good evening, everyone. We begin tonight "Keeping Them Honest," with a mother who is now asking the toughest question any mom ever can. Why is my son dead? 

That is all Pat Smith wants to know. Her son, Sean Smith, was one of the four Americans killed on September 11th in that terror attack on American facilities in Benghazi, Libya. Sean Smith, who is one of the computer specialists at the American consulate there. A month later -- a month after she watched her son's casket come off a cargo plane, a month after she says everyone promised her answers, everyone all the way up to the president of the United States. She says she is still waiting to hear. Still waiting for answers. Waiting for a call. 

Congress held hearings today. We'll talk about that shortly, but first, my conversation with Sean Smith's mom, Pat. 

 
COOPER: Pat, I appreciate you being with us. And I'm just so sorry for your loss. What do you want people to know about your son, about Sean? 

PAT SMITH, SON KILLED IN BENGHAZI ATTACK: Well, god. He was my only child. And he was good, he was good at what he did, he'd loved it. 

COOPER: He loved working with computers? 

SMITH: Computers, radios. He was good at what he did. 

COOPER: Was that something he had done as a kid? I mean how did -- did he always -- was he always good with computer? 

SMITH: Well, when he was a kid, computers weren't out yet. And -- 

(LAUGHTER)

And then they were out and he -- I got a computer and he started playing with them and he started showing me how you could build a flame thrower and -- by just watching a computer and then told you how to do it. So that's how it started. 

COOPER: He lived in the Netherlands. Were you able to communicate a lot? I mean he'd served in a lot of very dangerous places. Did you always know where he was? 

SMITH: I always knew where he was when he told me. For example, this time he was in the Hague and that is where he was stationed. He was supposed to be there for about two years. And then he would transfer some place else. I did not know he was going to be in Libya. 

COOPER: Did he ever talk about the dangers that came along with his job? I mean he -- he serve d in Iraq as well. 

SMITH: Yes, in fact, he sent me -- I still have it on my computer where he sent me this thing. He was in working in the palace over there. 

COOPER: In Baghdad. 

SMITH: And they -- yes, in Baghdad, and he says, got to go, and suddenly he just disappeared and I said, well, what's happening over there. And he said listen. And I was listening, and suddenly I heard boom. Where they were shooting at him. 

COOPER: You must have worried a lot. 

SMITH: When that was over. I can't spend my life worrying about it. I accepted what he wanted to do. 

COOPER: I want to play for our viewers some of what President Obama said about your son when he returned home. Let's watch. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Sean Smith, it seems, lived to serve. First in the Air Force, then with you at the State Department. He knew the perils of this calling, from his time in Baghdad. There in Benghazi, far from home, he surely thought of Heather and Samantha and Nathan, and he laid down his life in service to us all. 

Today, Sean is home. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: He's mentioning his wife and his children. When you heard the president say that, what did you think? 

SMITH: This is the first time I heard the president say that. 

COOPER: It is really? 

SMITH: Yes, he never told -- didn't tell me that. Sean knew he was in a bunch of scary places. I knew he was in security places. I didn't expect him to get blown up. I didn't expect him to die. COOPER: Do you feel that you know what happened or are you still searching for answers? Have you been in contact with the State Department? Have they reached out to you and given you details of what happened? 

SMITH: That's a funny subject. I begged them to tell me what was -- what happened. I said I want to know all the details, all of the details no matter what it is, and I'll make up my own mind on it. And everyone of them, all the big shots over there told me that -- they promised me, they promised me that they would tell me what happened. As soon as they figure it out. 

No one, not one person has ever, ever gotten back to me other than media people and the gaming people. 

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Her son was a big video gamer. 

We are going to have more of my conversation with Pat Smith after a quick break. She has some very tough words for this administration who she says has forgotten the promises they made to her the day Sean's body was returned. 

Also tonight, the latest on today's congressional hearings into the attacks. Jill Dougherty and Fran Townsend join us next. 

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COOPER: We're talking tonight with Pat Smith whose son Sean Smith was killed in the Libya terror attack. Former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty was also killed. Today his mother Barbara asked Mitt Romney to stop invoking her son's name on the campaign stump, quote, "I don't trust Romney," she says. "He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda." 

Pat Smith did not speak about anyone's political agenda tonight. She is, however, bitterly, bitterly disappointed with the State Department, the Defense Department and the White House tonight. You're going to hear shortly about how the State Department is going to respond to her charges. 

But first, though, more of my conversation with Pat Smith starting with her as yet unfulfilled search for answers. 

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Who told you that they would give you information? 

SMITH: You'll love this. Obama told me. Hillary promised me. Joe Biden -- Joe Biden is a pressure. He was a real sweetheart. But he also told -- they all told me that -- they promised me. And I told them please, tell me what happened. Just tell me what happened. 

COOPER: So you're still waiting to hear from somebody about what happened to your son? About what they know? Or even what they don't know. 

SMITH: Right. Right. Officially yes. I told them, please don't give me any baloney that comes through with this political stuff. I don't want political stuff. You can keep your political, just tell me the truth. What happened. And I still don't know. In fact, today I just heard something more that he died of smoke inhalation. 

COOPER: So you don't even know the cause of death? 

SMITH: I don't even know if that's true or not. No, I don't. I don't know where. I look at TV and I see bloody hand prints on walls, thinking, my god, is that my son's? I don't know if he was shot. I don't know -- I don't know. They haven't told me anything. They are still studying it. And the things that they are telling me are just outright lies. 

That Susan Rise, what -- she talked to me personally and she said, she said, this is the way it was. It was -- it was because of this film that came out. 

COOPER: So she told you personally that she thought it was a result of that video of the protest? 

SMITH: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. In fact all of them did. All of them did. Leon Panetta actually took my face in his hands like this and he said, trust me. I will tell you what happened. And so far, he's told me nothing. Nothing at all. And I want to know. 

COOPER: It's important for you to know all the details no matter how horrible. 

SMITH: Yes. 

COOPER: Or no matter how tough they are to hear. 

SMITH: Exactly. I told him, if it's such a secret thing, fine, take me in another room, whisper in my ear what happened so that I know, and we'll go from there. But no. No, they -- you know, they treat me like -- at first I was so proud because they were treating me so nice when I went to that reception. They all came up to me and talked to me and everything. I cried on Obama's shoulder. And he -- then he'd kind of looked off into the distance. 

So that was worthless to me. I want to know, for god's sakes. Or for Allah's sake or whoever's sake is there. 

COOPER: You deserve -- you deserve answers. 

SMITH: I think so. I believe I do. I believe it. It's my son. I had him for the first -- I told Obama personally, I said, look, I had him for his first 17 years and then he went into the service, then you got him. And -- I won't say it the way I said it. But I said you screwed up, you didn't do a good job, I lost my son. And they said, we'll get back to you. We -- I promise, I promise you. I will get back to you. COOPER: Some of the administration have said well, you know, we're investigating, we're still trying to find out answers. But you just want -- 

SMITH: They still are. 

COOPER: You would still want them to contact you and at least keep you apprised of the investigation, of where things are. You would think that they would at least do that. 

SMITH: That would be so nice. That would at least acknowledge that I have a right to know something, something other than, we're checking up on it, or trust me. I like that one the best of all. Trust me. I will let you know. 

Well, I don't trust you anymore. I don't trust you anymore. You -- I'm not going to say lied to me, but you didn't tell me and you knew. 

COOPER: Pat Smith, thank you. 

SMITH: OK. 

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: A grieving mother. We are joined now by two women who broke the news on the story right from the start. Former Bush homeland security adviser, Fran Townsend, and foreign affairs correspondent, Jill Dougherty. 

We should mention, Fran, as always -- as we always mention, serves on the CIA's external advisory committee. She recently traveled to Libya with her employer MacAndrews & Forbes. That was before the attack and actually had met with Ambassador Stevens. 

Obviously Mrs. Smith is very upset and we -- you know, it's very understandable why she would be. What is the procedure, though, for keeping a family informed? I mean she says, they said we will let you know what happened. Is it -- do they wait until the investigation is over? Or you would think somebody would be in contact with her. 

FRAN TOWNSEND, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CONTRIBUTOR: Right. So there's actually an office in the Justice Department because this is now obviously a criminal investigation, that's responsible. The Office of Victim Witness Assistance. They are supposed to be the advocates inside the apparatus of the U.S. government to get updates, to make sure that the families are kept apprised. But you would -- you also expect and every department has this. If it's an employee that's lost, or it's a member of one of our law enforcement or intelligence services that agency takes ownership of making sure to shepherd the person through the system and around the system to get information. 

So in many respects, Anderson, it's sort of incomprehensible to me these are people, the family members were identified, they met with senior officials, including the president of the United States and the secretary of state. It's not as though they don't know where she is. She's got -- 

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: Right. Initially I thought, well, maybe it's -- you know, it's -- maybe they're in contact with Sean Smith's wife who is I guess in the Netherlands. But she was at this reception. They clearly talked to her. 

TOWNSEND: No, that's right. And the fact oftentimes, Anderson, with a family that's lost someone, there's more than one person, right? So you'll have the parents of the victim. 

COOPER: Right. 

TOWNSEND: You may have a spouse or an extended family. And it becomes the government's responsibility to care for that family and keep them informed. 

COOPER: Well, Jill, I know you reached out to the State Department tonight about the allegations that Pat Smith has made. What are they saying? 

JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, there's three things they said to me. They're saying they, since the beginning, have made it a priority to be in touched with the families, maintain regular contact, as they say. They say that in the last 24 hours before the congressional hearing they've reached out by phone to at least one member of the family and told them what would be reported at that -- at that congressional hearing. 

And then they also said we're going to make sure that the mother of Sean is contacted by us. So, they won't get into a lot of specifics but they maintain that they have been in contact with the families in some way or another since the beginning. 

COOPER: So you're saying that they are now saying that they will contact Mrs. Smith? 

DOUGHERTY: They'll make sure. Yes, they said, they will make sure that they are. 

COOPER: At this point, though, I mean, a family member, who's -- who are they supposed to believe? I mean there have been so many different stories out there, Fran, and so many different -- and others, you know, lots of political allegations. We had this hearing today and, you know, some saw it as a political hearing. And politics motivating it. 

What do you -- 

TOWNSEND: You know, look, this is really hard. In the first 48 to 72 hours, the first facts are often wrong. 

COOPER: Right. 

TOWNSEND: And so I think the media and the American people understand that and sort of allowed for that. The problem is, tomorrow is a month since the attack. It is hard to imagine that no one has talked to this woman. The autopsy in which -- was done at Dover Air Force base for all of the victims with FBI agents present is a well known fact. The results of that are understood by investigators and there is no excuse for not sharing that information with this victim's mother. 

COOPER: Right. Jill, the hearing -- let's talk about the hearing that happened today. Which the State Department defended the administration's handling the attack. You say it was highly political. Did it accomplish anything? Did it resolve anything? There's certainly a lot of allegations about the political -- 

(CROSSTALK)

DOUGHERTY: Anderson, you know, I didn't hear a lot of really new information at all. I mean I think, I and some others who were watching it at the time were really struck by the fact that it really turned into his sparring, and it was very, very personal between, you know, the Republicans and the Democrats. 

And so it -- I don't think that it accomplished very much when you get down to the nuts and bolts of what was learned. 

COOPER: One of the most contentious moments, Jill, was, I mean, the State Department said that they had -- I don't have the exact phrasing but basically the appropriate number of people on the ground, and there was -- there was a sharp rebuke from the panel saying, how can you say that when -- given four Americans are dead. 

DOUGHERTY: Right. And that's the essential thing. But I think what -- and not to explain away what the State Department is doing, but their view would be based on the information that they had at that particular point which -- was coming from intelligence agencies and others on the ground. They believe that they had the adequate amount of staffing. 

Now they also say that event was so extraordinary that basically nothing a few more people, a few more, let's say, protective measures could not have protected from something that they are describing, really, as combat -- military combat attack. 

COOPER: There is an investigation underway. I mean, a -- at this point, Fran, who is responsible for giving the definitive account of what happened and what cables were sent in doing this investigation? 

TOWNSEND: Well, as we've said and reported, Anderson, there are a number of -- there's accountability review board, there are these congressional hearings. In the end, the definitive version of the facts will come from the FBI who are responsible for putting together the investigation and a potential prosecution. They will be -- they will be the keepers of the evidence. But I must tell you ,you know, the answer on its face if we had adequate security kind of fails the common sense test. I mean, honestly, if you step back from the partisan politics of Washington, and you talk to average Americans who've got no dog in this fight, they sort of say, look, it's obvious we didn't have adequate security. This isn't -- if we're looking to assign blame, the terrorists are to blame for the death. But if we need -- we want accountability because we want to understand how can we make sure the State Department are working in dangerous places, we want to make sure, how do we assess threats, assign security, and -- 

COOPER: What the State Department has said today in this hearing was that no amount of sort of the usual security would have been able to deal with a -- dozens of attackers. They're saying, there were dozens of attackers who are heavily armed. You say? 

TOWNSEND: I say we have forward operating bases in Iraq and Afghanistan during the height of the war. And we protected -- 

COOPER: And certainly -- and the facility itself was not very secured in terms of the actual technological security devices over there. 

TOWNSEND: That's right. But if it's -- so if you're at a facility that you cannot protect, that it is not possible to protect from the threat that is present, then you shouldn't be there. If you are there and you believe you can protect, then you've got to give it adequate resources. It's -- this is less about to me about blame than it is about accountability. What we ought to care about is accountability to protect other diplomats. 

COOPER: Sure. Because you don't want this to happen again. 

TOWNSEND: Right. 

COOPER: And there are other facilities that we have that are like this consulate. That's the bottom line here. 

TOWNSEND: Right. 

COOPER: And also getting answers for the families. 

Jill Dougherty, I appreciate your reporting. Fran Townsend, as well